Elizabeth Warren Said Bernie Sanders Told Her He Didn’t Believe A Woman Could Win In 2020

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Sanders had blamed the story on “staff who weren’t in the room [and] are lying about what happened.”

ByRuby Cramer

DES MOINES — Elizabeth Warren recalled an explosive account of a meeting with Bernie Sanders in which he said he didn’t believe a woman could win in 2020, according to three people who heard the story directly from her in the weeks following their private meeting.

The fact that the candidate was herself the source of the story renders Sanders’ first response — to blame it on “lying” staffers — inoperative, and ensures that the two senators will be forced to discuss the details of the disputed December 2018 meeting at Tuesday night’s debate here in Iowa.

The Warren campaign declined to comment on her recollection of the meeting.

Sanders has denied the story, first reported by CNN, as a total fabrication by “staff who weren’t in the room [who] are lying about what happened,” he said in a lengthy statement issued Monday. The people who heard Warren talk about the meeting at the time in early 2019 said on Monday that their recollection of her telling matched CNN’s reporting on Monday.

In the meeting between Warren and Sanders, both of whom frequently refer to the other as a “friend,” the Massachusetts senator informed her colleague that she planned to run for president. In his statement denying the CNN account of the meeting, Sanders said it would be “ludicrous to believe” that he responded by saying a woman couldn’t win the election.

“What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist, and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could,” Sanders said on Monday. “Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.

“It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened.”

The bitterness between the two candidates comes as their long-running campaign truce is showing signs of falling apart. Over the weekend, Politico reported that Sanders’ campaign had given volunteers an organizing script that unstructured supporters to cast Warren as a candidate whose supporters were “highly educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what” and would bring “no new bases into the Democratic Party.”

The next day, at an event in Iowa City, Sanders denied any prior knowledge of the volunteer script, calling it the product of someone who “[said] things that they shouldn’t [have].”

“We have over 500 people on our campaign. People do certain things. I’m sure that on Elizabeth’s campaign people do certain things as well,” Sanders said. “But you have heard me for months. I have never said a negative word about Elizabeth Warren, who is a friend of mine. We have differences on issues. That’s what a campaign is about. But no one is going to be attacking Elizabeth.”

Warren, asked by reporters Sunday about the talking points, said she was “disappointed” Sanders was “sending his volunteers out to trash [her].”

Warren and Sanders will soon have a chance to face each other the fracture directly: They will both be onstage in Des Moines on Tuesday night for the last primary debate before the state’s caucuses.

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  • Ruby Cramer is a politics reporter for BuzzFeed News and is based in New York.

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